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this is Leslie Kane and you're listening

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hey everyone and welcome back to that

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UFO podcast my name is Andy and this is

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a breaking news pod as the ndaa has been

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passed what does that mean what does the

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ndaa why is it relevant to UFOs you

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might not even know you might you might

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have been following it for quite some

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time no one better to join me to discuss

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and analyze this and break it down than

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hello all the way over in Mexico how are

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hello hello I'm great thank you I'm here

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in sunny sunny Mexico uh I I was trying

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to kind of get a nice view out my back

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window but the sun is too bright and it

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may be a silhouette but just out my

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window I can see one of the volcanoes

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this around the city

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um and yeah I'm going to be going to see

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some ruining and stuff so I'm excited

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this is my first video from on the road

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nice well where I am is zero degrees I'm

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gonna shed I can't feel my feet and it's

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been snowing quite heavily outside as

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well and as Dan knows I've had pretty

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much the day from hell as it pertains to

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things breaking things not working and

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general stuff like that but one thing

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that has broken today was the news that

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the end e NDA has passed a reminder of

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what that actually is the ndaa is the

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National Defense authorization act for

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the United States obviously and it is

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the name for a series of U.S federal

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laws specifying the annual budget and

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expenditures of the US Department of

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Defense how does that impact those of us

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with our UFO uh interest I hear you ask

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well Dan how does that impact the UFO

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community

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it impacts us in a number of ways not

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necessarily the community but the

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subject um at the very least there there

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is about 33 pages in it that are

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relevant to the UAP issue that talk

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about the office and what it's required

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to do and various things like that the

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languages changed since we last

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discussed it so so I'll just kind of

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walk through all of the changes and

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summarize really what um what is

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important for people to know uh but

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basically there are a few sections

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6802-6803 uh fans can I just said

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comment on that sure I'm guessing

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section 1673 as everyone will know is a

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secure method for authorized reporting

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uh is that correct

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so there are a few things in here that

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are relevant to discuss so firstly

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before now uh there's been a lot of

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changing the office name so the uip uh

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joint program office that's not

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happening anymore we're sticking with

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the name that we've got Arrow the all

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domain anomalies resolution office which

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is a great name if you ask me kind of

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does what it says on the team you know

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uh this this section specifically it

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creates a secure method by which current

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or former government employees or

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contractors can submit UAP related

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information to the Pentagon UAP office

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then through that office they also can

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reach the Congressional armed services

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and intelligence committees as well

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there is a new language in here that

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explicitly kind of expands the scope of

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um as any activity or program by a

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department or agency of the federal

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department or agency

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including with respect to material

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retrieval so we're cooking crash

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security protections and enforcement

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that's a nice robust bit of language

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there if Arrow does receive through the

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secure system any disclosure about UAP

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related restricted access programs that

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they have to inform the Secretary of

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Congressional leadership within 72 hours

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that is new in this particular bit of

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language so it's really nice to hear

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that the pressure is on to kind of keep

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it all current

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other whistle blow related language is

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in the ndaa not necessarily connected to

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this uh but it will probably impact how

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this reporting happens I would just say

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that under the Obama Administration

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there was a lot of prosecution for

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people going outside of the law to

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whistleblow here it's best that people

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stick to this report and apparatus that

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it's it's going to be made public how

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people can report it

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um so it's best for people to stick to

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it just so they can protect themselves

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and not be prosecuted by the current

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government Chris Mellon was really

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supportive of this language in the New

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York conference he even gave out his

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email there was a discussion I was privy

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to between an ex-air Force employee who

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said they wouldn't be covered by it so

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it's nice to know that melon actually

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wants to to expand the scope of this and

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make sure that other people are being

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all organizations will be searching

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their records for mbas related to UAP

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Kirkpatrick I will have to make these

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records accessible to Congressional

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committees and Leadership no later than

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briefings will go on every year as well

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we've also changed the term

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so we're no longer talking about

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um identified aerial phenomena we're

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talking about and identified anomalous

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just before we get to that regarding the

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Whistleblower stuff because I feel there

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are still expectations from some and

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this is just when I look at social media

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conversations that whistleblowers coming

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forward means that on live TV or in some

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kind of you know political setting

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there's going to be an unclassified

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public debate where you're going to get

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individual a coming out to say I worked

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on uh secret program that reverse

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engineered spacecraft that we recovered

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that is very unlikely to be the case

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isn't it it's not going to be that sort

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of grandiose announcement it's there's

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not even the necessity that it's going

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to be people coming forward to speak

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publicly they could still be speaking

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and likely we'd be speaking in a

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classified setting which means we don't

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necessarily even end up hearing about it

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yeah that's absolutely correct just

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because someone reports it it doesn't

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mean we'll be hearing about it what I

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would say is we we will hear whether

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people have utilized the system or not

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in our yulu reports we just won't

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necessarily hear the contents of that

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this is where we kind of just need to

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have a little bit of faith that the the

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Congressional leadership who I had in

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this Earth are going to action it they

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can then if they want to try and

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declassify the information which is

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social media his article is also within

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the description of this link so was the

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article from the debrief they've both

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covered this really well and cover it

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very often too a quick quote from D Dean

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Johnson as and I'll quote there might be

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other cases in which a witness learns of

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the new system and uses it to provide

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obscure but useful information that had

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simply been lost at pigeonholed or

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forgotten without any element of

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improper active concealment and in that

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case the term whistleblower would not be

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a good fit but the secure method would

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still be useful end quote so again

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there's there are other things here that

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this is useful for because it's going to

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allow folks to come forward to say I

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found out this I've discovered this and

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it doesn't necessarily have been a whole

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conspiracy for example the Air Force has

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a program for reverse engineering you

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know back engineering or retrieval of

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stolen recovered materials it could be

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something totally a left field but

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relevant and in this system and this

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method will allow them to come forward

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without any reprisal or fear of you know

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anything coming against them for for

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speaking out so there's a lot of of

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positives not just the the classic I

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think the Whistleblower idea that people

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may have in their heads of what a

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whistleblower might be

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yeah that's absolutely right we're not

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just talking about people like Edward

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Snowden and you know people like that

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this is a robust system to do it

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properly which is what we mean really uh

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you know whistleblowers could have come

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out for you as we've had that bad

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confessions and they haven't really

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moved the needle on this so we need a

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proper robust system and that's what

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we're getting pretty much worth

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mentioning that when it comes to the

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definition of unidentified aerial

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phenomena the definition hasn't changed

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so even though we're using anomalous

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instead of Ariel we're still talking

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about Airborne objects that are not

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or devices that are not immediately

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identifiable and that display Behavior

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or performance characteristics

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suggesting that the objects of devices

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may be related to the objects described

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in subparagraph a the term transmedium

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objects or devices is defined to

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basically mean objects that are observed

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to transition between space the

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so we're not just talking about uh you

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know ignoring man-made stuff anymore

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that provision is actually removed from

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the legislation here which I'm not too

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happy about but it's okay you know you

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know this is this is still a really

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robust piece of legislation

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that brings us to section 6802 and 6803

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which you might have in front of you do

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you want to tell everyone what that what

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that is

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uh I had it in front of me and I've hit

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the wrong button but that's fine in

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general as the general revisions

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pertaining to the Pentagon UAP office

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brackets arrow and its operations and

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arrow conducted historical record report

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on government involvement in UAP what I

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took away from that is that from those

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historical records people thinking back

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those kind of things and it now is going

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to go back to January 1st

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1945. so it's been broadened slightly

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compilation and itemization of the key

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was protected by restricted access that

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and any efforts to obfuscate manipulate

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public opinion hide or otherwise provide

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incorrect unclassified or classified

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information about unidentified anomalous

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phenomena or related activities I think

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for me Dan that's the one that will

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raise a lot of people's eyebrows because

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that's the ones that do start getting

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into for lack of other terms that people

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would use with who are much smarter than

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me secret programs misinformation

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cover-ups but I also think that might be

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the hardest thing in all of this to

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really

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clarify because this is the kind of

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stuff when Tom Delong talks about stove

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pipes and and all these different

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compartments and knocking on one door

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leading to three other doors and two of

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those doors are boarded up and one of

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them is now a broom closet and then you

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find a note to say you need to go

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somewhere else down a hall but that then

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got moved to a private contractor and

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you know page 12 says turn to page 26

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and it's I think that's really confusing

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yeah it's I'm thinking Goosebumps Choose

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Your Own Ending um but when you don't

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like it you go back to the page but you

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go back to the page you were on

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I think that's a really difficult thing

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because it's not easy to see yet

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actually we've found a closet and it has

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some failing cabinets and within those

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failing cabinets there's a folder and

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that folder says here in 1940 it we

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recovered our craft in 1952 we covered

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this up and because that's not going to

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be there the people that would have

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dealt with these have long since passed

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on and that will be the The Gatekeepers

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and key holders Generations removed who

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have never been charged with that

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information and the secure you know

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secret keeping that's happened

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potentially within that time

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and that's just not something that's

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going to necessarily come forward and I

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think when I read a lot of that stuff I

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immediately think Air Force potentially

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involved in a lot of that kind of stuff

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as well what are your thoughts

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yeah absolutely there will be smear

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Force involvement and like you say it's

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gonna it's gonna be a lot of work to

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kind of detail this and I hope when it's

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done they kind of release some kind of

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public version of this because wowie

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that will contain a it'll almost be an

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Insider's look at the US government's

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involvement in UFOs in a way that we

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just haven't seen before you know they

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they're going to be able to look at

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documents but also Paul interviews uh

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pull people into interview as well

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whether it's contractors or government

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employees past or present uh they'll be

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able to look at classified and

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unclassified archives do open source

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analysis and just look at any records

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that Dr Sean Kirkpatrick sees fit to

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look at basically so once done it's it's

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going to be a real robust uh real robust

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look at it all and they generally have

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uh a little time to do it

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um I had the date noted here but we're

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looking at some time uh you know in the

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next year or so I think they have about

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a year a year and a half to put this

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together so it'll be a little while

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before we even hear that it's been

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handed in but it's an absolutely

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necessary part of this process to kind

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of clear up what's been going on in the

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past uh as we all want them to the the

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one main thing to note as well with this

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is it was going to be the Comptroller uh

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that did this

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but now it's going to be arrow that kind

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of takes the lead on it which is fair

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enough I think you know they're doing a

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UAP study they kind of need to know this

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but what's really encouraging about it

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is now the reporting isn't just to odni

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it's to the congressional committees to

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the officials in Congress basically OD

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and I aren't going to be able to just

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stop the buck at their office anymore

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they they will anything they hear they

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will know that all of the current

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officials in Congress also have heard

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this stuff so it's going to be very

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actionable uh in a way that it wasn't

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one or two listeners reached out to me

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recently regarding some of the language

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changes

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um and the dating Johnson himself

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pointed this out which is where I

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connected the dots it wasn't just me

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being intelligent uh he and I'll quote

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uh dating Johnson some commentators have

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jumped to the conclusion that the change

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from Ariel to anomalous will vastly

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expand the scope of the phenomena that

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Arrow would be tasked to him with

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investigating to include for example

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Poltergeist or werewolves such claims

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fail to take into account that the old

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term and the new term point to

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functionally identical definitions so I

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think the idea that removing Ariel to

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anomalous would be this almost more of

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an OSAP type of you know organization or

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investigating the skinwalker type

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phenomena that's that's highly unlikely

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and it's more of a definition tweaking

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isn't it and is still very much looking

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at objects or finding in the air the the

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sea and potentially space I always like

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to add in there yeah we're talking

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transmedium objects you know the ones

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that transition between airspace and see

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exactly like you said there is scope in

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the future I would say with that

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anomalous term for them to broaden out a

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little bit but for now we're looking at

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exactly the same stuff as we were

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looking at last year which is fine

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because looking at the number of reports

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uh you know it went up from 40 44 last

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year to we're hitting like 366 is the

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number we're here in this year with 50

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solve the reporting measures are doing

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what they were designed to do the more

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people are reporting we've got more

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reports more things are being solved but

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actually the solve rate has gone down so

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I'm not sure you know that Julian Barnes

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article was painting a proper picture

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when they were kind of saying yeah we

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sold out of these things cool what what

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are the things you didn't solve that's

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what we're interested in you know

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absolutely Dan I want to ask you a

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question so with that Roundup for people

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what what does this ultimately mean in

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terms of

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what we're going to get from this just

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to summarize so the NDA has passed it

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still has to be signed off am I correct

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from the the administration now

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from Biden so I it's going towards the

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desk of the president basically it is

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passed today uh which is awesome

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congratulations everyone good job

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um and oh just to say that the

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Comptroller report is due by uh no later

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than September 30th 2023 uh but yeah

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this this has passed now it will go to

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the president's desk I would expect it

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to hit President Biden to sign it in

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around Christmas and then we'll

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essentially get the ball rolling on

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these kind of title Provisions the

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secure system

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and this report of the history of the

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US's involvement with UAP and just to

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point out as well that there are a lot

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of offices involved with this too so

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we're looking at the DIA the NSA the

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department of energy the National

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geospatial Intelligence Agency the Army

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Navy Air Force Marine Corps and Coast

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Guard and Homeland Security uh who kind

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of leaked the rubber duck video early

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this year uh so there's a nice kind of

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wide array of organizations involved in

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this so I would expect you know this

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board is rolling we'll get yearly

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reports again

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um that are deemed to

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they have to be unclassified but can

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include a classified Annex however like

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we've seen this year there's no

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guarantee on a date for them to be

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submitted

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there's just a requirement for reports

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so I would still expect to see the UAP

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report from this year we just haven't

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seen it yet it's caught up in red tape

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basically yeah

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do you know what if any positives are to

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come from that I'll just add then if any

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positives are to come from that the fact

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is that those dates regardless of being

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mandated or not are are fluid and it

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came and went and must still not had

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that report I would like to add Dan that

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the the debrief article did mention the

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funding levels included within the bill

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for those interested in the numbers

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involved uh Department of Defense is

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816.7 billion Department of energy which

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is always an organization that raises

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eyebrows as it gets mentioned many times

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on the podcast by guests and another uh

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literature Endeavors 30.3 billion the

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ndaa top line is 847 points

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defense related activities outside here

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30.3 billion yeah

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um which I mean it's not it's not a

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number of you know amount of money to be

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sniffed at you know uh differentiated

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activities outside the ndaa jurisdiction

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10.6 billion and National Defense

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Topline

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857.9 billion something I found was

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really interesting was and I think this

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is correct that the the US defends

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budget is more than every other

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country's defense budget put together I

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believe which is yeah pretty pretty

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incredible and also actually just to

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give a shout out to the debrief because

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of quoted DD and Johnson quite a lot

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here

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article about disruptive Technologies

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Lancet air and the edge and it talks

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about from military concerns and

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competition from foreign adversaries

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like China development of Next

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Generation aircraft other

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state-of-the-art Technologies so things

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like um strategic competition with China

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and Russia disruptive Technologies like

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Hypersonic weapons artificial

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intelligence 5G and Quantum Computing

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modernizing our aircraft and vehicles

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that's the kind of stuff this money gets

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put towards as well as the stuff that's

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involved with taking a UAP side of

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things as well

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cool so then

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um all in I I think it's a weird thing

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to talk about a defense budget and be

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like oh yeah is that a good thing a bad

534
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thing you know a lot of this stuff goes

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to war

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M where

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just in the uh part of this bill

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requires a science plan to be developed

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and as part of that science plan they'll

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be testing theories relating to

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characteristics and performance at UAP

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whether it's propulsion aerodynamic

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control signature structures materials

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sensors countermeasures weapons

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Electronics or a power source they that

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investigation uh is specified to perhaps

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provide potential future Investments for

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the upgrade of the US's military

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awesome

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cool Dan what we'll do is we will round

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off there with any final thoughts I'll

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just add I'm going to go back and

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hopefully fix there's been a couple of

554
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little gaps potentially and Dan and I

555
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talking to each other you shouldn't hear

556
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that when this gets released just with

557
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Dan being in Mexico there's a bit of a

558
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lag at times in the conversation so

559
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apologies if any of that does leak

560
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through it hopefully doesn't and if

561
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we've been talking over each other it's

562
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just because of you know said Gap but

563
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that's it yeah so uh Dan final thoughts

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in on the legislation passing

565
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very encouraged uh it's exciting to see

566
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this going through a good set forward

567
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from last year and remember we have like

568
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four or five years of this left in this

569
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:01,620
legislation it's specified that it will

570
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go till 2027 previously it was only 2026

571
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so we have an extra year here uh this is

572
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awesome Dan thank you for taking time up

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of your sabbatical to come on to the

574
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podcast and you know chat to the Little

575
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People Like Us uh but she'll be doing on

576
00:21:24,169 --> 00:21:22,799
a regular basis anyway obviously that

577
00:21:26,630 --> 00:21:24,179
won't change just now and again Dan

578
00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:26,640
might not have internet sustainable on a

579
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daily basis but he's still getting the

580
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work done

581
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um and yeah it is very good to hear from

582
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you and obviously if anything changes

583
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and uh in the meantime which it

584
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shouldn't because as we've seen from D

585
00:21:42,590 --> 00:21:39,900
Dean Johnson and others this should now

586
00:21:44,510 --> 00:21:42,600
go through with no revisions whatsoever

587
00:21:46,669 --> 00:21:44,520
um pertaining to any of the UAP UFO

588
00:21:48,830 --> 00:21:46,679
stuff either so good to break that down

589
00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:48,840
any questions send them over via any of

590
00:21:52,250 --> 00:21:50,880
the social media channels via email and

591
00:21:53,630 --> 00:21:52,260
we can chat through those I would

592
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:53,640
definitely recommend following people

593
00:21:57,470 --> 00:21:55,679
like Dan dedeen Johnson the debrief

594
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because those are the folks in the know

595
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that can give you some detailed

596
00:22:02,810 --> 00:22:01,200
information on that too and anything we

597
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get wrong full disclaimer we're not

598
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based in the states so we don't know

599
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this is very true I think I know more

600
00:22:12,350 --> 00:22:10,440
about the U.S political system than the

601
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UK

602
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that's why he left thanks folks speak

603
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soon that is all for this week's show

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keep looking up you never know what you

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might see

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[Music]

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they thought this was noise

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because it doesn't really scare me

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[Music]

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considering your eyes